I’m always in Kanye West’s corner, I’m not going to deny that. Check the RES tags if you doubt me. So imagine me laptopless last night when, during MTV’s pathetithon Tokio Hotel party Video wait do they play music?Music Awards Awards? really? yeah Awards, Yeezy stormed the stage during Leanne Rhymes Taylor Swift’s acceptance speech to offer the ONLY bit of tension, humor, drama and excitement of the WHOLE night (no, watching Jay-Z’s line of black cars carry him from Tribeca to Radio City does not count).

Instantly, the internet heated up with haters doing what they do-namely the titular act of expressing disdain- and ignoring the fact that, later in the show, when Beyonce gave Taylor her “due”, Taylor neglected to thank Ms Fierce and was later taken to task in a stern yet polite way by Jigga but that’s fine.

Kanye West is the Dave Eggers of rap. I’ve said it before. 808s was the best album of 2008. And Dr Zachary, former associate of the late Dr Shlomo Zelig and I got on AIM this A.M., as two who saw eye-to-eye on the brilliance behind Heartbreak, to discuss, amongst other things, how Kanye is better than the Beatles and Jesus.

(10:43:16 AM) shaun bateman: KANYE
(10:43:17 AM) shaun bateman: WESTTTTTT
(10:43:47 AM) dr zachary: love him
(10:43:51 AM) dr zachary: he is a TRUE artist
(10:44:08 AM) dr zachary: he saw an offense against art that he
could not abide
(10:44:10 AM) dr zachary: and he spoke out
(10:44:11 AM) dr zachary: he’s a hero
(10:44:17 AM) dr zachary: not even remotely being snark
(10:45:39 AM) shaun bateman: i know
(10:45:40 AM) shaun bateman: i KNOW
(10:45:49 AM) shaun bateman: dude
(10:45:55 AM) shaun bateman: when i got your tweet this am
(10:45:57 AM) shaun bateman: from last night
(10:46:05 AM) shaun bateman: asking if he had upset people by speaking
his mind but that you didnt know
(10:46:08 AM) shaun bateman: bc you hadnt seen it
(10:46:10 AM) shaun bateman: i was like
(10:46:16 AM) shaun bateman: YESSSS DR Z GETS IT W/O EVEN HAVING SEEN IT
(10:46:47 AM) dr zachary: yep
(10:46:50 AM) dr zachary: and then i watched it
(10:46:51 AM) dr zachary: and was confirmed
(10:46:54 AM) dr zachary: much like rosa parks was probably considered rude at the time when she sat at the front of the bus, kanye will be considered arrogant for refusing to allow artistic injustice.. history will be on his side.”

(10:50:41 AM) dr zachary: hm, i wonder if it was all a stage
(10:50:45 AM) dr zachary: kanye LARPing kanye
(10:50:48 AM) dr zachary: all staged*
(10:51:14 AM) shaun bateman: i dont think so
(10:51:16 AM) shaun bateman: he wouldnt
(10:51:17 AM) shaun bateman: let himself be
(10:51:20 AM) shaun bateman: made a bitch in his BLOG
(10:51:25 AM) shaun bateman: and he BLOGGED an apology
(10:51:30 AM) shaun bateman: the blog would tell the truth
(10:51:58 AM) dr zachary: yeah
(10:52:00 AM) dr zachary: he had one key line in it
(10:52:06 AM) dr zachary: ‘i’m not crazy, i’m just being real’
(10:52:18 AM) dr zachary: sometimes we need someone to be real for all of us
(10:52:43 AM) dr zachary: for example, for your average taylor
swift fan, JESUS kept it real for you when he died for your sins
(10:52:57 AM) dr zachary: and like him, kanye is crucified
(10:53:21 AM) shaun bateman: jesus christ
(10:53:25 AM) shaun bateman: can you email all of this to me?
(10:53:28 AM) shaun bateman: and i will post it
(10:54:24 AM) dr zachary: should we edit anything?
(10:54:27 AM) dr zachary: or like kanye, just keep it real
(10:54:34 AM) shaun bateman: i would like for you to just send me the aim chat
(10:54:35 AM) shaun bateman: :)
(10:54:38 AM) shaun bateman: i think kanye
(10:54:42 AM) shaun bateman: would want us to be as real as it gets
(10:55:03 AM) dr zachary: this isn’t sea world, after all
(10:55:26 AM) dr zachary: kanye is on a boat, and we’re all just
lucky to be passengers
(10:43(2:22:27 PM) dr zachary: vmas are pretty much about politics, awards quotas
(2:22:46 PM) dr zachary: kanye’s moment was a single stark mote of
authenticity
(2:22:58 PM) dr zachary: the only real instance of artistic
integrity in the thing
(2:23:06 PM) shaun bateman: sortof wished i HAD liveblogged it
(2:23:13 PM) shaun bateman: just to be able to continue to go back to
it all night
(2:23:20 PM) dr zachary: yeah
(2:23:23 PM) dr zachary: we can deadblog it
(2:25:28 PM) shaun bateman: you have heard stronger, right?
(2:25:28 PM) shaun bateman: yeah
(2:25:29 PM) shaun bateman: ok
(2:25:35 PM) shaun bateman: i am going to call this post on res
(2:25:38 PM) shaun bateman: “anyone say real shit anymore?”
(2:31:50 PM) dr zachary: not sure if you want to go here with it..
(2:32:13 PM) shaun bateman: please tell me EVERYTHING
(2:32:16 PM) dr zachary: but i think that there’s a hardwired meme
in american culture to be outraged when a black man causes distress in
a young white woman
(2:32:16 PM) shaun bateman: including your on a boat thing
(2:32:18 PM) shaun bateman: is in my email
(2:36:03 PM) shaun bateman: i am going to splice
(2:36:06 PM) shaun bateman: your meme comment in
(2:39:44 PM) shaun bateman: is it his fault
(2:39:46 PM) shaun bateman: really
(2:39:50 PM) shaun bateman: that he is unable to sit by
(2:40:04 PM) shaun bateman: and abide an atrocity against art itself?
(2:40:08 PM) shaun bateman: i mean, at his core
(2:40:11 PM) shaun bateman: is hit not suffering more than ANYONE
(2:40:17 PM) shaun bateman: forced to act as a VESSEL for the very
(2:40:20 PM) shaun bateman: PLATONIC IDEAL OF ART?

(2:40:30 PM) shaun bateman: it’s beyond compelled. it’s forced.
(2:40:35 PM) shaun bateman: kanye is a force of nature. a force of creation.
(2:40:39 PM) shaun bateman: possibly the only real truth?
(2:40:42 PM) shaun bateman: is yeezy.
(2:41:27 PM) dr zachary: he said he was the voice of our generation
of our decade
(2:41:30 PM) dr zachary: but he’s more than that
(2:42:45 PM) dr zachary: he’s the lens through which we focus our
ideas about art and culture, the projector that spits what entertains
us, and the screen that we love (and need) to watch and critique
(2:43:20 PM) shaun bateman: what, honestly
(2:43:27 PM) shaun bateman: did the beatles do for pop culture that he hasnt
(2:43:33 PM) shaun bateman: why was it ok for john lennon to be bigger
than jesus
(2:43:41 PM) shaun bateman: when kanye admits that both jesus AND art
speak THROUGH him?
(2:43:53 PM) dr zachary: very good point
(2:43:58 PM) shaun bateman: (also dude do NOT fucking leave without
emailing me this new stuff)
(2:44:05 PM) dr zachary: white/educated vs black/dropout
(2:44:08 PM) dr zachary: might be part of it
(2:44:26 PM) shaun bateman: but in this economy, the number of people
kanye has given work to
(2:44:28 PM) shaun bateman: through his success
(2:44:36 PM) shaun bateman: record label ppl, assistants, photogs, journos, etc
(2:44:43 PM) shaun bateman: not to mention with his various brands
(2:44:45 PM) shaun bateman: i daresay he
(2:44:49 PM) shaun bateman: as a college dropout
(2:44:53 PM) shaun bateman: is helping more people than
(2:44:59 PM) shaun bateman: many with degrees from ivy league schools
(2:45:04 PM) shaun bateman: an investment banker helps who?
(2:45:05 PM) shaun bateman: himself.
(2:45:10 PM) shaun bateman: yeezy helps EVERYONE he touches

(2:47:23 PM) dr zachary: in time, the most helpful advice taylor
swift ever could have received could have been kanye’s
(2:47:32 PM) dr zachary: that no, she ISN’T deserving of accolades
(2:47:57 PM) dr zachary: we should all be thanking kanye for taking
the lumps he does to speak the painful truth to us
(2:48:40 PM) dr zachary: it’s the story of galileo and the inquisition
(2:48:42 PM) dr zachary: all over again
(2:48:59 PM) dr zachary: just because kanye sees the universe with
a clarity that we do not
(2:49:06 PM) dr zachary: we seek to exile him
(2:49:14 PM) dr zachary: i for one think we shouldn’t make that mistake again
(2:49:37 PM) dr zachary: the meat-and-three-starches/mac & cheese
is a vegetable taylor swift crowd and their pitchforks would disagree
(2:49:51 PM) dr zachary: (i think i LARPed you just then?)
(2:49:59 PM) shaun bateman: SO GOOD
(2:50:02 PM) shaun bateman: ok so
(2:50:06 PM) shaun bateman: to get this to a point where i can post it
(2:50:09 PM) shaun bateman: and circulate the link
(2:50:31 PM) shaun bateman: would you say kanye west speaks for all of
us, whether or not we agree with him?
(2:50:40 PM) dr zachary: i would
(2:50:48 PM) shaun bateman: indeed.
(2:50:50 PM) shaun bateman: ok email me that?
(2:50:55 PM) shaun bateman: you get it in a format i can use
(2:50:57 PM) dr zachary: will do
(2:51:01 PM) dr zachary: i don’t think we should edit anything
(2:51:06 PM) shaun bateman: i am not!
(2:51:08 PM) dr zachary: even the talks about how to format and release it
(2:51:08 PM) shaun bateman: i just
(2:51:10 PM) shaun bateman: added in
(2:51:15 PM) shaun bateman: your quote from the email
(2:51:25 PM) dr zachary: because part of the art is the decision to
make something public, because if it’s not public, it’s not real (see
also: 808s & HB)
(2:51:31 PM) shaun bateman: YES
(2:51:33 PM) shaun bateman: include that TOO
(2:51:35 PM) shaun bateman: and me saying THIS
(2:51:37 PM) shaun bateman: META!
(2:51:51 PM) dr zachary: should i email this to you now?
(2:51:55 PM) shaun bateman: yes